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[xine-devel] Library for mms protocol support
From: Mathrick <mnews2@wp...> - 2003-12-26 21:04
This was already sent once, but got swallowed waiting for moderator's approval:

(CC'ing gstreamer-devel)

Hi guys,
I want to propose development of library for mms protocol support. Right
now, each and every project that wants to support mms is required to
implement all of SDP specs itself, due to lack of common library for
that. To remedy that, I'd like to start project aimed at providing such
a library. The benefits are as usual from using lib:

- no code duplication
- larger userbase, more extensive testing
- possible larger developer base
- better feature parity between projects
- single fix benefits all users
etc.

Availability of such library would also benefit other projects, that may
want to support mms, but cannot currently afford developing yet another
proprietary implementation, like GStreamer or GnomeVFS, and possibly
others.
Technically, such a lib would be required to have been LGPL'd, because
both GStreamer and Gnome projects are LGPL.
It would be the coolest to turn existing xine implementation into
library, as it is pretty good one, and also largely independent from
xine itself, but I'm aware of your code being GPL, and that you may not
want or be able to relicense it as LGPL. Thus, just your cooperation and
support will be of great value.
I'd like to discuss available possibilities for few days, and then open
SF project in about a week or two. Unfortunately, I have finals coming
in late January, that may severly limit amount of my free time, but I'll
do my best. I look forward to your comments.

Cheers,
Maciej

--
"Tautologizm to coś tautologicznego"
   Maciej Katafiasz <mnews2@...>
       http://mathrick.blog.pl

Re: [xine-devel] Library for mms protocol support
From: Michael Roitzsch <mroi@us...> -   2003-12-27 11:25
Hi,

> Hi guys,
> I want to propose development of library for mms protocol support.
> Right now, each and every project that wants to support mms is
> required to implement all of SDP specs itself, due to lack of common
> library for that. To remedy that, I'd like to start project aimed at
> providing such a library. The benefits are as usual from using lib:
>
> - no code duplication
> - larger userbase, more extensive testing
> - possible larger developer base
> - better feature parity between projects
> - single fix benefits all users
> etc.
>
> Availability of such library would also benefit other projects, that
> may want to support mms, but cannot currently afford developing yet
> another proprietary implementation, like GStreamer or GnomeVFS, and
> possibly others.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

> Technically, such a lib would be required to have been LGPL'd,
> because both GStreamer and Gnome projects are LGPL.
> It would be the coolest to turn existing xine implementation into
> library, as it is pretty good one, and also largely independent from
> xine itself, but I'm aware of your code being GPL, and that you may
> not want or be able to relicense it as LGPL. Thus, just your
> cooperation and support will be of great value.

I guess you would have to write all people who committed changes to
input_mms.c and ask for their permission. Fortunately, these are not
too many.

Michael

--
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Re: [xine-devel] Library for mms protocol support
From: Mathrick <mnews2@wp...> - 2003-12-27 19:38
W liście z sob, 27-12-2003, godz. 12:24, Michael Roitzsch pisze:
> >
> > Availability of such library would also benefit other projects, that
> > may want to support mms, but cannot currently afford developing yet
> > another proprietary implementation, like GStreamer or GnomeVFS, and
> > possibly others.
>
> Sounds like a good idea to me.

Nice to hear :)

> > Technically, such a lib would be required to have been LGPL'd,
> > because both GStreamer and Gnome projects are LGPL.
> > It would be the coolest to turn existing xine implementation into
> > library, as it is pretty good one, and also largely independent from
> > xine itself, but I'm aware of your code being GPL, and that you may
> > not want or be able to relicense it as LGPL. Thus, just your
> > cooperation and support will be of great value.
>
> I guess you would have to write all people who committed changes to
> input_mms.c and ask for their permission. Fortunately, these are not
> too many.

OK, but copyright info contains "xine project" only. Will webcvs be
enough to get all the contributors?

Maciej

--
"Tautologizm to coś tautologicznego"
   Maciej Katafiasz <mnews2@...>
       http://mathrick.blog.pl

Re: [xine-devel] Library for mms protocol support
From: Miguel Freitas <miguel@ce...> -   2003-12-28 05:13
On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 14:17, Mathrick wrote:
> OK, but copyright info contains "xine project" only. Will webcvs be
> enough to get all the contributors?

you might need to ask "Major MMS" too ;-)

regards,

Miguel

Re: [xine-devel] Library for mms protocol support
From: Mathrick <mnews2@wp...> - 2003-12-28 11:12
W liście z nie, 28-12-2003, godz. 04:49, Miguel Freitas pisze:
> On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 14:17, Mathrick wrote:
> > OK, but copyright info contains "xine project" only. Will webcvs be
> > enough to get all the contributors?
>
> you might need to ask "Major MMS" too ;-)

Heh, is there any way to contact him? He seems to be some sort of
nameless hero, and that may complicate matters.

I will send mails asking about relicensing to everyone found on CVS log,
and also to the list, in case they don't read their sf mail accounts :).

--
"Tautologizm to coś tautologicznego"
   Maciej Katafiasz <mnews2@...>
       http://mathrick.blog.pl

Re: [gst-devel] Re: [xine-devel] Library for mms protocol support
From: Mathrick <mnews2@wp...> - 2003-12-28 11:43
W liście z nie, 28-12-2003, godz. 12:12, Mathrick pisze:
> W liście z nie, 28-12-2003, godz. 04:49, Miguel Freitas pisze:
> > On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 14:17, Mathrick wrote:
> > > OK, but copyright info contains "xine project" only. Will webcvs be
> > > enough to get all the contributors?
> >
> > you might need to ask "Major MMS" too ;-)
>
> Heh, is there any way to contact him? He seems to be some sort of
> nameless hero, and that may complicate matters.
>
> I will send mails asking about relicensing to everyone found on CVS log,
> and also to the list, in case they don't read their sf mail accounts :).

Sent mail asking for relicensing to the following people:

Bastien Nocera
Daniel Caujolle-Bert
Ewald Snel
Guenter Bartsch
James Courtier-Dutton
Michael Roitzsch
Miguel Freitas
Siggi Langauf
Stephen Torri
Thibaut Mattern

In case I missed anybody, or it wasn't delivered properly, please inform
me of that.

Maciej

--
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   Maciej Katafiasz <mnews2@...>
       http://mathrick.blog.pl

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